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		By: Ray		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree wholeheartedly. The first thing Disney World should do is install automated displays at each stop showing the wait for the next two busses.  Disney is way behind on this. These are standard in most cities rapid transit stops. (On my last trip (December 2013) there was a woman standing at the Port Orleans bus stop with a clipboard writing down the times of all the bus arrivals and departures. I thought, what a waste of effort. Can&#039;t that all be tracked more easily and efficiently via GPS from a central location?)

Other suggestions that might make getting around a better experience:

Automated kiosks so guests can easily figure out the best way to get from point a to point b.  Just touch where you want to go on the screen and it tells you what to do and the times of the next busses, boats, etc. &quot;Contemporary to Boardwalk?  Take a bus to Hollywood Studios then a boat to Boardwalk (or whatever). The next bus arrives in 3 minutes.&quot;

Make people in motorized wheelchairs wait in line with everybody else. I understand letting them board first, but not to skip to the head of the line while everybody else has to wait for several busses. This causes a lot of frustration. 

Better trained bus drivers. I&#039;ve had several drivers make wrong turns or drop off passengers at the wrong places resulting in longer walks to park gates.  We expect better. 

More busses and larger busses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly. The first thing Disney World should do is install automated displays at each stop showing the wait for the next two busses.  Disney is way behind on this. These are standard in most cities rapid transit stops. (On my last trip (December 2013) there was a woman standing at the Port Orleans bus stop with a clipboard writing down the times of all the bus arrivals and departures. I thought, what a waste of effort. Can&#8217;t that all be tracked more easily and efficiently via GPS from a central location?)</p>
<p>Other suggestions that might make getting around a better experience:</p>
<p>Automated kiosks so guests can easily figure out the best way to get from point a to point b.  Just touch where you want to go on the screen and it tells you what to do and the times of the next busses, boats, etc. &#8220;Contemporary to Boardwalk?  Take a bus to Hollywood Studios then a boat to Boardwalk (or whatever). The next bus arrives in 3 minutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Make people in motorized wheelchairs wait in line with everybody else. I understand letting them board first, but not to skip to the head of the line while everybody else has to wait for several busses. This causes a lot of frustration. </p>
<p>Better trained bus drivers. I&#8217;ve had several drivers make wrong turns or drop off passengers at the wrong places resulting in longer walks to park gates.  We expect better. </p>
<p>More busses and larger busses.</p>
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		By: web gangsta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thewebgangsta.com/2009/05/how-to-improve-disney-transportation/comment-page-1/#comment-1614&quot;&gt;Kevin Z&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Kevin - good points.  We&#039;ve also been to WDW on July 4th, and would not recommend visiting during that timeframe to others for various not-Disneys-fault reasons.

Keep in mind that the MK parking lot is so large that you could fit the entire Disneyland Resort in it, and still have parking left over.  On busy days like July4, its inevitable that you&#039;d have to wait for a parking tram to get you.  Even the &quot;up-close AAA parking&quot; is no picnic and requires a little bit of a hike.  Public buses are allowed on property - one stops at the Ticket and Transportation Center at the Magic Kingdom (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.golynx.com/?fuse=cstm&#038;app=route&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Route LINK 56&lt;/a&gt;), for example. Other parks should be on other routes.

As for your perception of slower trams as you&#039;re leaving vs arriving?  That could be due to the tram drivers having to spend more time helping guests find their lost cars in the evening rather than the morning commute which is more structured in how they work.

Of course, a lot of what you describe at the TTC could be alleviated by staying on property. On-site park guests don&#039;t have to jump through the parking lot-TTC hoop that non-Hotel guests do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thewebgangsta.com/2009/05/how-to-improve-disney-transportation/comment-page-1/#comment-1614">Kevin Z</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Kevin &#8211; good points.  We&#8217;ve also been to WDW on July 4th, and would not recommend visiting during that timeframe to others for various not-Disneys-fault reasons.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the MK parking lot is so large that you could fit the entire Disneyland Resort in it, and still have parking left over.  On busy days like July4, its inevitable that you&#8217;d have to wait for a parking tram to get you.  Even the &#8220;up-close AAA parking&#8221; is no picnic and requires a little bit of a hike.  Public buses are allowed on property &#8211; one stops at the Ticket and Transportation Center at the Magic Kingdom (<a href="http://www.golynx.com/?fuse=cstm&amp;app=route" rel="nofollow">Route LINK 56</a>), for example. Other parks should be on other routes.</p>
<p>As for your perception of slower trams as you&#8217;re leaving vs arriving?  That could be due to the tram drivers having to spend more time helping guests find their lost cars in the evening rather than the morning commute which is more structured in how they work.</p>
<p>Of course, a lot of what you describe at the TTC could be alleviated by staying on property. On-site park guests don&#8217;t have to jump through the parking lot-TTC hoop that non-Hotel guests do.</p>
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		By: Kevin Z		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 03:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree that Disney should be communicating wait times for outside-of-park transportation, especially at peak times such as park closing times. 

I have a some additional thoughts...On days like July 4th (2011), with the park jam-packed, it took 95 minutes to go from park exit gate to car in the Magic Kingdom lot, via boat then tram -- feeling like cattle packed in a stable. Disney&#039;s transportation system can handle light to moderate traffic with ease, but cannot handle the volume of people they admit to the park on such special days. Also, as far as rides, without strategic use of FastPass privileges on such days, the park experience would be a waiting-line disaster too. 

For &quot;worst case&quot; jam-packed conditions, it would help to have a second boat dock at both ends (expensive), and/or monorails with more cars, which is done in the train industry when there are more passengers to handle (right?) This would require a &quot;load-move-ahead-and-load-more&quot; operation due to the space available at each monorail loading platform, and might be risky as park-goers are not used to this). The other help would be a third mode of transportation to get to the ticket and transportation center -- namely direct buses that are strictly used for this purpose and used exclusively at peak times.

Another idea is that Disney should accept public transportation buses within the park somewhere within walking distance of the ticket and trans center or Epcot. Other than special charter-type shuttle or long-haul buses, there does not seem to be any public transportation opportunities within the Disney compound. If one could take a public bus and avoid the current $14 parking fees all together (like is allowed at Sea World Orlando for example) that would take some stress off the Disney system, and give Disney the reputation of being more aware of the financial hardship parking fees have on their guests...of course, Disney would lose a lot of $14 fees, too -- so I should quit dreaming on that one...

Last few things relate to trams -- they emit diesel exhaust and I cannot figure out why Disney seems so concerned for guest safety and still allow that. Regarding frequency of trams, trams come one at a time at peak times. To get you to the parks, there is never much delay -- the faster to the park to start spending money the better!  But on departure, they tend to be slower or less frequent. With something like 50 passengers in each &quot;row-queue&quot; at jam times, and about 5 people per queue served by a tram, you still need to wait for 9 or 10 trams to get to the front of the queue and onto a tram. The trams come in serial fashion (one after another) and probably could be serving guests in a parallel fashion. That is, at peak times, there should be a parallel loading arrangement at the ticket and trans center so two trams can be loaded simultaneously. Combine that with a few more trams in circulation and a 30 minute wait to get to one&#039;s car via tram could be cut in half.

Bottom line, Disney has a reputation for &quot;world class&quot; transportation, but its system fails miserably at  peak times...I have experienced this several times over the years, and it isn&#039;t getting any better... True world class systems would be able to better adapt to such jam conditions. For that reason, Disney is not worthy of any special praise for its transportation system in my estimation. Of course, Disney figures your magical time in the Magic Kingdom (or another park) will translate to forgiveness for being held captive and waiting in yet another long, long line to get to your car -- as you can see, in my case, they are mistaken...Sea World, Kennedy Space Center and a few other attractions in Orlando offer such a refreshing change -- where you can take one trolley to your hotel, or walk to your car in their lot and drive off -- which after experiencing several boat-then-tram or monorail-then-tram Disney nightmares feels TRULY MAGICAL!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that Disney should be communicating wait times for outside-of-park transportation, especially at peak times such as park closing times. </p>
<p>I have a some additional thoughts&#8230;On days like July 4th (2011), with the park jam-packed, it took 95 minutes to go from park exit gate to car in the Magic Kingdom lot, via boat then tram &#8212; feeling like cattle packed in a stable. Disney&#8217;s transportation system can handle light to moderate traffic with ease, but cannot handle the volume of people they admit to the park on such special days. Also, as far as rides, without strategic use of FastPass privileges on such days, the park experience would be a waiting-line disaster too. </p>
<p>For &#8220;worst case&#8221; jam-packed conditions, it would help to have a second boat dock at both ends (expensive), and/or monorails with more cars, which is done in the train industry when there are more passengers to handle (right?) This would require a &#8220;load-move-ahead-and-load-more&#8221; operation due to the space available at each monorail loading platform, and might be risky as park-goers are not used to this). The other help would be a third mode of transportation to get to the ticket and transportation center &#8212; namely direct buses that are strictly used for this purpose and used exclusively at peak times.</p>
<p>Another idea is that Disney should accept public transportation buses within the park somewhere within walking distance of the ticket and trans center or Epcot. Other than special charter-type shuttle or long-haul buses, there does not seem to be any public transportation opportunities within the Disney compound. If one could take a public bus and avoid the current $14 parking fees all together (like is allowed at Sea World Orlando for example) that would take some stress off the Disney system, and give Disney the reputation of being more aware of the financial hardship parking fees have on their guests&#8230;of course, Disney would lose a lot of $14 fees, too &#8212; so I should quit dreaming on that one&#8230;</p>
<p>Last few things relate to trams &#8212; they emit diesel exhaust and I cannot figure out why Disney seems so concerned for guest safety and still allow that. Regarding frequency of trams, trams come one at a time at peak times. To get you to the parks, there is never much delay &#8212; the faster to the park to start spending money the better!  But on departure, they tend to be slower or less frequent. With something like 50 passengers in each &#8220;row-queue&#8221; at jam times, and about 5 people per queue served by a tram, you still need to wait for 9 or 10 trams to get to the front of the queue and onto a tram. The trams come in serial fashion (one after another) and probably could be serving guests in a parallel fashion. That is, at peak times, there should be a parallel loading arrangement at the ticket and trans center so two trams can be loaded simultaneously. Combine that with a few more trams in circulation and a 30 minute wait to get to one&#8217;s car via tram could be cut in half.</p>
<p>Bottom line, Disney has a reputation for &#8220;world class&#8221; transportation, but its system fails miserably at  peak times&#8230;I have experienced this several times over the years, and it isn&#8217;t getting any better&#8230; True world class systems would be able to better adapt to such jam conditions. For that reason, Disney is not worthy of any special praise for its transportation system in my estimation. Of course, Disney figures your magical time in the Magic Kingdom (or another park) will translate to forgiveness for being held captive and waiting in yet another long, long line to get to your car &#8212; as you can see, in my case, they are mistaken&#8230;Sea World, Kennedy Space Center and a few other attractions in Orlando offer such a refreshing change &#8212; where you can take one trolley to your hotel, or walk to your car in their lot and drive off &#8212; which after experiencing several boat-then-tram or monorail-then-tram Disney nightmares feels TRULY MAGICAL!</p>
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		By: Gray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I LOVE the GPS idea!  (In fact, I&#039;ve often wished my local bus system would use such a GPS system, so I&#039;d know if I had just missed the last bus or if it hadn&#039;t come yet.  Our buses are 30 minutes apart, so it makes a difference on a cold winter day.  But I digress.)  You&#039;re right--the longer you have to wait or the longer it takes to get from point A to point B on property, the lower one&#039;s satisfaction level with Disney transportation.  (Especially when it&#039;s late at night, and everyone&#039;s tired and cranky, or when you have a dining reservation to catch.)  

At the very least, there should be buses (maybe not as large as the park buses; maybe vans) that go directly from resort to resort.  It&#039;s so time-consuming to transfer, I always wind up paying for a cab.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE the GPS idea!  (In fact, I&#8217;ve often wished my local bus system would use such a GPS system, so I&#8217;d know if I had just missed the last bus or if it hadn&#8217;t come yet.  Our buses are 30 minutes apart, so it makes a difference on a cold winter day.  But I digress.)  You&#8217;re right&#8211;the longer you have to wait or the longer it takes to get from point A to point B on property, the lower one&#8217;s satisfaction level with Disney transportation.  (Especially when it&#8217;s late at night, and everyone&#8217;s tired and cranky, or when you have a dining reservation to catch.)  </p>
<p>At the very least, there should be buses (maybe not as large as the park buses; maybe vans) that go directly from resort to resort.  It&#8217;s so time-consuming to transfer, I always wind up paying for a cab.</p>
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